VINTAGE AUTO RACING ASSOCIATION

Kevin M. · Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 9

Jerry,

Just wanted to check in with you, for UOV test and tune, are we allowed to have passengers during this event?

Thanks!
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Jerry Bernhiemer · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:50 am Post subject:

Kevin

I dont know. Check with John Wilkins. dpracer@race-dogs.com

See you there.

JB

apatkneip · Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 37

are passengers allowed during test and tune ??

Answer - No , passengers are not allowed in the race cars during test and tune . Race conditions prevail on the track during test and tune sessions .

During the UOV driving instructors accompany the students in their cars if the car has the proper safety equipment but this is an instructional procedure only . Pat Kneip
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Kevin M. · Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 9

Thanks Pat, thats unfortunate, since were allowing instructors in the cars, why wouldn't we be able to have a passanger for this event? I'm sure its a safety issue, but if one had a full setup, seat, belts, suit etc. it would be nice to take out passengers.
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apatkneip · Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 37

The UOV is conducted under totally different conditions whereas the test and tune is conducted under an open race forum . Our insurance does not accommodate a " passenger ride along " element with regard to the " open practice / test and tune part of our event . Safety is our major concern with regard to all our events and the passenger element does not fit into that mode . I hope you understand our position and this will not discourage you from participating in our event .
Pat
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Kevin M. · Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 9

Thanks for the clarification Pat, so if I signed up for the UOV instead of test & tune I can have a passenger?
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apatkneip · Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 37

Kevin , that would depend on who that passenger happens to be. If it were one of the instructors the answer would be yes - but if were anyone other than the instructor the answer is no . Sorry
Pat
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apatkneip · Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 37

Kevin , I failed to mention that the instructors riding in the cars are not passengers but actually observing and instructing the student with whom they are riding .
Pat
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Kevin M. · Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 9

Thanks for the info Pat, I appreciate it your time, unfortuntaly thats the deal breaker for me attending, I was planning on taking my Father out, he attends all the races with me.

Thanks again
Kevin
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Shawn Essex · Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Carmel, CA

How about if Kevin is the "instructor" for the day and his dad signs on as the "student"?...with Kevin doing the driving. Seems like that would meet the insurance regs.

I have also been curious about passengers.
My question would be what if the passenger has a valid competition license, would that be allowed at events?....my brothers' race cars seem to be in the never ending "restoration" process....need to get them out on the track.
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Shawn Essex
'72 BMW 3.0CS - #670 AS
'72 BMW 2002 - #672 BS

Kevin M. · Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 9

Hey Shawn!! Haven't seen you in a while, of course I haven't been out since July. Are you going to make Fontana?
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Shawn Essex · Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Carmel, CA

I'm trying Kevin.
Have a few things left to finish up on the coupe (procrastinating on some body work).....looking forward to another go with you at Fontana. Also going to hit a few Laguna dates. See you this spring.
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'72 BMW 3.0CS - #670 AS
'72 BMW 2002 - #672 BS

J Wilkins · Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 54 Location: Glendale, CA.

Shawn Essex · Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Carmel, CA

Thanks John!
Car is coming out of the trailer this weekend.
See you guys soon.
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'72 BMW 3.0CS - #670 AS
'72 BMW 2002 - #672 BS

Shad Essex · Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 1

Hey now...I resemble that remark, Shawn: "Never ending restoration"?! All I wanted to do was paint my engine bay and "freshen a few things up". Little did I know that the REST of the car is attached to the engine bay. I'll be out there this year, but my dilema is this: if I finish MY 2002 then I can't drive YOUR 2002 anymore...and yours has all the fun stuff on it.