OK... the B.E. is history... An event WELL DONE!!! CONGRATS!!!
Indeed the B.E. is always a challenge for management to make run groups even remotely sensible... and you guys did a great job!

But now we're back to reality...

PLEASE PUT ALL THE TIN TOPS (B/S C/S) TOGETHER, along with D, E, & F Prod... WE REALLY DO PLAY WELL TOGETHER!!!

I say simplify and go back to the DP /EP/FP etc. classes for ALL cars. Forget separating sedans from sports cars, what's the deal with that? Am I alone on this?

The idea is to re-unite under 2 liter B/sedans with the comparable sports cars and C? sedans... RATHER than putting B/S in with the P & Zcar C prod+++ group.

The FP run well with the GP & HP cars.

rickclemente wrote:The idea is to re-unite under 2 liter B/sedans with the comparable sports cars and C? sedans...

The aerodynamically-challenged run group!

Yes, Alan.....You ARE alone in your thinking!!! The CS group is one of the largest at any VARA event, often making up half the run group. Combining all the tin tops in one class might make an entire run group one of these days if things go the way they have in the past few years.

I have been pushing for a "sedan" group since the 1980's with SCCA, VARA, We love VARA, anyone that would listen....unsuccessfully, I might add, at least until now.

Admittedly, a combined sedan group will make it a bit inconvenient for us since we run cars in both the BS and CS classes....Such is life...It's still a good idea.


Rod #130 CS Mini and #45 BS Lotus Cortina

Rod,

I LOVE the CS Group we run in, and usually find a fun gaggle of well driven MGB's, Alfa's, Porsche's or BMW 2002's to play with. I just think all the classes are a little over the top to keep track of. The last time I ran in our Group the classes were (in finishing order):

DPM, ESR, DP, CS, RSR, DP1, EP, EPM, CSM, DPX, CS1, EP1, ESRX, and DSR.

Last April I ran Laguna Seca with SFR/SCCA Vintage. Similar amount and variety of cars. The classes were SBP 2 and SBP 3. Not a big deal, just a lot less expenditure in checkered flags and easier to figure out who you're racing with.

Mr. Lonely

Alan, I'll always be willing to race with you. I wouldn't want the job of trying to sort out all the run groups either, so I try not to complain.

Your missing the point, Alan. I would like to see all the SEDANS in one run group. Put all the production and sports racers in their own run group.
My hope is that one day soon, the BS, CS, DS run group will have upwards of 30 cars.

As to all the separate classes, the X's, the M's, the 1's, etc. , what can you say...We are a club that provides a class for every car...and, you may be surprised (if anyone can be surprised at anything I do) that I agree with you in the need to combine or eliminate some of the various classes. However, since the prize structure is totally based on points, since there are individuals in the club that place great value on winning these points, I see no changes in our immediate future.

My opinion remains the same...An all sedan run group! Perhaps re create the old Trans Am series of the late 60's where every sedan from Mustangs to Saabs raced together. Well, you would need to do some rules enforcement if you REALLY wanted to make something like that work!

For now? An all "tin top" race would be nice.

Rod