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New Style AFFF fire extinquisher

 
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Larry Payton



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:18 pm    Post subject: New Style AFFF fire extinquisher Reply with quote

Jerry B.

Is the new style AFFF fire extinquisher made by FireCharger acceptable to VARA Tech. The reason I ask is that the bottle does not have any gauge regarding bottle pressure. Due to the design of this type system, the bottle is not pressure charged, but relies on a CO2 cartridge to pressurize system when activated by driver. I currently have one of these new systems and want to use as my old Halon unit has been discharged (error-not need!) Thanks for any info provided----Larry Payton
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Jerry Bernhiemer



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:17 am    Post subject: Fire Charger AFF System Reply with quote

pm sent today
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C.Plavan



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Larry- I have been using that same fire system for about 5 years with VARA. Sometimes during tech I unscrew the cartridge to show them it has not been pierced. So they know the pressure is good.
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Rene Gimenez



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: FireCharger Reply with quote

Jerry-

As I finish up the restoration of my new Zink C4 Formula Vee, I too am looking to purchase the FireCharger 2.3L AFFF system. To re-ask the question, is it ok? I am especially curious if the capacity of the system (2.3L) is acceptable. Thanks - Rene Gimenez
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Larry Payton



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jerry----did not receive a PM as of this a.m. Please send again.

Chad----thanks for the response. Seems like a good system.

Larry
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Jerry Bernhiemer



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: AFF notes Reply with quote

Fire Charger AFF System

The 2.3 L system is acceptable in any car. Use 1 nozzle with each port (line). total of two.

With a Sedan or closed car (with larger area to cover) the larger system 4+ L might be a better choice and will support 3 or 4 nozzles.

Fire Charger suggests every two years to remove the system, fire it and replace the cartridge and rupture disc. and AFF. Lube the cable and blow down/check the lines also. There is no pressure gage on this type as it is non presurized until use. You want to look for seepage at the bottle head o-ring and at the threads in the firing cartridge. If seepage recharge the unit.

Follow the instructions with the system. I suggest you keep a copy of the instructions with any fire system especially AFF because of the variety of these systems nozzle # and placement etc.

Recharge kits are inexpensive and field fillable.

Fire Charger Systems /Pack Racing Products/packracing.com
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Jerry Bernhiemer



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:51 am    Post subject: AFF Notes Reply with quote

the Fire Charger AFF 2.3 Liter system is fine in any car. 2 nozzles, one on each port.

The larger 4L system would be better on a Sedan or large closed car. 3 nozzles .

Any sepage from the bottle head or from the firing cartridge indicates system must be emptied and recharged. There is no gage as the system is only pressurized when fired. Visual inspection is only way.

Follow the instructions and keep them withg the car for reference. Any AFF system you should keep a copy of the inst. with the car due to variables in nozzle numbers and orientation. Didn't keep the paperwork? Download at Pack's site.

F.C. recommends a bottle tear down and refill every two years due to corrosion dirt etc. new cartridge, AFF and rupture disc. kits are cheap. Get extra o-ring(s) as they are not in the "kit". Re lube the cable core and blow down the lines also.

Fire Charger/ Pack Racing/ packracing.com
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C.Plavan



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the 2.3L system if that helps.
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Pedro Guimaraes



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:19 am    Post subject: raced with mine in VARA last year no problems Reply with quote

I have the larger system with 4 nozzles. Why not? Only a few bucks more... after so many years getting my car ready the last thing I want to do is see it burn to the ground.....

here some pics of my install
http://bmw1602.lostbrazilian.com/v1/viewer.php?album=albums/Gallery/AFFF%20Fire%20System&pn=1
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